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Shelby Kittinger | Painter
03.27.25
Dawn Cochran: Hi. Alright, so I'm Dawn Cochran and I'm doing an interview with my friend. Hahah. Who are you? And can you give me a little introduction?
Shelby Kittinger: Hi, I'm Shelby Kittinger. I am a local artist here in Buffalo and I make multimedia-based paintings that typically hold the themes of sociopolitical events, matched with a lot of emotions that come with it.
DC: So. What is your background and how did you get started into this?
SK: Well, so I've painted my entire life. But I went to school at SUNY Fredonia and graduated in the midst of COVID in 2020, as a sculpture major and art history minor. But what really got me back into painting was I was a little sick of academia for a while and I wanted an easier way of creating, without needing to make large sculptures and having no space for it.
DC: Do you think that you're gonna continue down the painting path and not go back to sculptures at all?
SK: I feel I'm starting to bring more multidimensional elements to my paintings. So I think I'm not gonna leave the realm of painting. I think that has been kind of my pride and joy. But what I enjoy doing is creating paintings that go outside of the canvas, so they don't stay within the dimensions of a square. Or a rectangle. They like to break it and I'd like to add elements that stick out of the painting as well.
DC: I did see your Etsy account, because I was lurking you yesterday and I really do love the Barbie. That is an incredible piece. It's incredible.
SK: Thank you.
DC: That is definitely something that goes outside of the square canvas. Which is very large talking about no space.
SK: Yeah it is. You should see at this current moment my bedroom is my studio, so I have paintings lining up the walls and on the side of them.
DC: I believe it. Who or what is your biggest influence?
SK: Oh, OK. So when it comes to influence of artists that I really enjoy Egon Schiele. Even though he himself had a rather short artist life as well as life in general. It was a little controversial. His raw emotions and painterly strokes have very much influenced the way that I express emotions in my paintings. But. I get a lot of inspiration a lot by history, poetry, writing. Because I'm really a student of art history. So I'm really influenced by everything that has come before us. And I attempt to slowly put little bits in each painting that I create.
DC: That's beautiful. You're so beautiful. Speaking of the socio political aspect and kind of telling this story through history, what role do you believe that art plays in society? Do you think that... actually, you know what, I'm not even going to follow up with another question. I just want you to answer the original. What role do you believe art plays in society?
SK: Art is the best expression of humanity. The we have an inherent need to create and when we are faced with so many troubles. Who do we look toward for information? We look toward artists, we look toward poets. We look toward people who are able to see the world without, like, horse blinders to tell what's happening. And I understand that I use Social like. I look at socio political and... I am a white woman whose bisexual. But in a male presenting relationship, and I understand I haven't lived experiences that others have, but I'm always open to learning more about it and like, teaching myself because I feel if we are ill-informed, we cannot create pieces that tell the whole story without knowing the knowledge of it. So artists are the speakers.
DC: I can't disagree with that. I mean, not that I would disagree with it anyway. This isn't really like a battle. Haha. So I know some stuff that's coming up, but is there anything coming up that you would like to talk about. Or if you wanna first answer this: What is your biggest achievement this far?
SK: Oh UM. Biggest achievement so far in my art career is what is currently coming up.
DC: OK, so let's talk about it.
SK: So in April, I will be part of a group of five other artists at the Hunt Art residency in Buffalo, NY.
DC: And what does that exactly mean for the people who don't live in the art world?
SK: An art residency really is when a gallery or a group kind of takes artists under their wings and provides them with opportunities of further engagement for their own careers, having artists talks, or other well known or local artists who are succeeding in their field, come talk to you. They also provide spaces for you to create artwork for a certain amount of time. And display your artwork at a show at the very end. So for this residency, it is 6 months. You're given a studio space and we meet once a week as well as have to come in when we have all the different openings. To create artwork and work in a really fun collaborative space together.
DC: Now you said at the end you'll have your artwork on display. Is this only anything that has been created in the six months. Or can you bring past works like all the stuff in your bedroom?
SK: I think so. I believe for the show at the very end, it's the artwork we're currently creating. But in our studio, because we get to set up in the middle of April, our own studios, we have to bring in artwork we've created beforehand and put them on display and a price tag so that people can come down during all of the openings and peek their heads into our studios.
DC: I really like that. That's really cool because you're, like, here's all of the stuff I've done.
SK: Yeah.
DC: Well, not all of it, but here's the stuff I've done, and here is going to be the stuff I'm doing now. I know we talked a little bit about your style and your creating off of the canvas. What are your favorite mediums?
SK: Oh, uh, like types of paintings or?
DC: Or yeah, I guess maybe that's not the right word. But what's your favorite paint? What is your favorite canvas to paint on? I know that I've seen you paint on wood? What else... I was lurking... and now I can't remember.
SK: I've kind of picking up a few different things I see typically. And medium is the correct word.
DC: OK phew.
SK: You're all good on that. I was like, oh, I just wanted to make sure. I typically create with acrylic and gouache paint. And for gouache, I really like to paint on paper because it holds it really nicely. Ah. Especially if you get a nice thicker paper like Reeves is great for it. Acrylic paint is great to put on everything. Some people won't agree with it, but I don't have patience to wait three days to then put on my details. So acrylic paint is great for putting players on in a quicker pace. I've painted on cardboard canvas. Wood. Honestly, cardboard has been fun. Because it's cheap, everyone has it, and it's biodegradable, which isn't great for art preservationists.
DC: Yeah, yeah. Well. It's good to practice, you know, if you have a new concept and you're like, you know what? I don't really care about this one.
SK: Like. I'll just work on that. Yeah, I mean a lot of times I have the idea in my head and I swore off horribly rough sketching it. I don't really have a pretty notebook. I've been attempting to create a pretty notebook. It's going poorly, but I'll sketch it roughly if I have it in my head more than anything. And like once I create it, it's done.
DC: I got you. All right. No sketchbooks... interesting. That is some talent. You are just like I have it in my head and now it's a piece of art. That's it. Done.
SK: I mean, I take reference images as best as I can. Google search through everything. Probably the amount of pictures on my phone is about 12,000 and most of them are referenced images.
DC: That is, that is the life that we live. Most of most of mine are memes. I'm just kidding. I might not be kidding.
SK:I would not be surprised at all.
DC: I'll have to go through my screenshots. It's probably stuff that I meant to read at a later date. And then I've never looked at again. If we’re being honest, but anyway. So after your six month residency... which everybody who's reading this should absolutely go check it out. It is in Buffalo, downtown on Main Street. Uh. What was the name again, Hunt?
SK: Yep. Hunt Art Gallery yeah.
DC: Yes. So after that, what do you see in your future? Are you going to try to continue getting residencies at art galleries? Do you want to possibly have your own art gallery?
SK: I think the end all be all goal is to be able to have my artwork in galleries. But eventually one day create a community, right? Where I currently live is in the Southtowns, and in the town that I live, there is no art to be had. I would like to create a Community and possibly one day, buy a house. You know, if everything crashes. To create a little spot so that others can have like a little weekend away residency, like a little shed in the backyard. But I want to have my artwork everywhere. If I can reach the ability to have pieces in New York City, Paris, I will be beyond happy. I don't want to not reach for the stars because if I settle. I think it will be the biggest disappointment in my life and I've gone through a lot.
DC: No, I 100% agree. I've definitely been told in my life that I am too old, or too out of touch with reality. And I'm like, Nah, man. Like if I'm not going to say it, if I'm not going to dream about it...it's never going to happen, but if I say it and think about it. It could potentially happen, so why not?
SK: And if you don't do it, exactly, but if you don't do anything about it. You're never gonna get any step further. You may not succeed the first time. I've been doing this and attempting with me and my husband working it out for the past 3 1/2 years and we've gone through a lot in that time. But this past year, year and the few months, has been the most progression and I think it really started with my red piece. That's also called “We're All Fucking Clowns”
DC :Yes, I love that piece too.
SK: It so skyrocketed me.
DC: Yeah, that is, that is a great piece. I saw you were selling prints. Man, listen to me promoting you. So I'm going to lead in... What do you think about this social media self-promotion culture that we are in.
SK: I think...
DC: Do you hate it? Because I hate it, haha
SK: I hate it. I do hate it, in the aspect that now I have to actively be on my phone a lot more than I ever was. People would call me. I'd miss it. I'd maybe talk to him the day after, but I am always on my phone. Applying, checking things, seeing openings, cause when you go to openings you become more recognizable. You meet people, they notice you. People are very kind in this community in Buffalo, I will say. And we'll give a little shout outs or send opportunities that they feel like your stuff fits, but you are on social media all the time and I hate promoting myself.
DC: I do too.
SK: But no one else is gonna do it for me.
DC: Correct. I mean I obviously I'm not an artist in the sense that you are. But it just feels egotistical. Like, like, I have to make myself a brand.
SK: Absolutely.
DC: And that sucks because I'm not a brand. I'm a person, but people aren't going to like this. Maybe. But you know, that's what actors are told. Make yourself a brand. And I'm like, yeah, well, but anyway, I digress.
SK: No, no, no. Artists in the aspect of traditional media like I am, are also told find your niche.
DC: Oh yeah, yeah.
SK: Find your spot and I'm like it has always killed me because I have squandered a lot of my own creativity and process by attempting to be palatable. And what's easy to be sold. I've never sold a single painting, and it kills me because sometimes... more likely than not, okay once a month I will break out and cry and go. What am I doing this for?
DC: Which is completely understandable, but don't put yourself in the box of finding your niche. I don't. I don't know.
SK: No, I don't like it. And it's not true. I think it is an old way of doing things. And not that there aren't things that you can take beautiful tips from, that have worked for the past, but it doesn't need to happen the same way anymore, yeah. I feel you have to be consistent, and I think that is the biggest thing.
DC: Yeah, and the consistency gets hard after a while. Well, if we're talking about social media, because I just get burnt out on it and then I get angry. You did mention that Buffalo is a very good place where people will share your stuff... What are your favorite things about Buffalo?
SK: I enjoy that when you look at Buffalo, you see the years of its of its grandeur. You also see the years of its poverty. You also see we get the lake and the forest. We get the kindness of people. And also, I think the only people who can live in Buffalo are the people who are able to grind through. And I think that makes us hard workers, because you really have to work to get places here. Oh yeah, such a great art community. People are gracious. I think. It is just the people, the people make it.
DC: It's definitely not the weather. I can tell you that.
SK: No, it's not.
DC: Are there any people that you would like to shout out? Speaking of, you know, how people are gracious. Anyone you want to say thank you to or anything.
SK: I there's a few different people. I think I've made some wonderful friends, and I've met some more recent artists who've really helped me find the people that I need, to go, to like... to move myself forward. Danielle Saeva is a fantastic female artist and she actually currently is working at the Hunt Art Gallery, as well as I believe, Oshei. [She] is a fantastic oil painter. I have been wanting to take some lessons with her. She is transcendental as a person to begin with. But her painting skills are just fabulous, and she is a great look for talent. I'd also like to say Julia Bottoms is a female black artist, who's done tons and tons of work for the Black community in Buffalo. Including the freedom wall and just had an exhibition, the artwork at the Buffalo Society of Artists, for young black artists, and she's a fantastic portrait artist. And it was incredibly nice to finally meet her in person, like a few weeks ago. I was beyond stricken.
DC: Did you do the nervous thing where your face turns red and you don't know what to say and you stutter? Because that's what happens to me.
SK: Of course I did. I didn't know she was going to be there. I didn't think about the fact tha “Yeah, you ran this. Of course, you're gonna be here!” And a fellow artist of mine, who used to be my boss actually, at Locust Street art, introduced me and I was like “Hi. How do you paint? What do you do? What are your tips? Why do you do this? What is the reason?” Like SHUT UP. Hahah
DC: Ah, that's that is amazing. I love that for you. So I think that we are going to have to wrap this up. Ironically, I need to ask you if you would like to share your social media accounts where people can find you. Facebook. Instagram. I don't know... Etsy.
SK: I actually... I have to update my website. But my Instagram is @shekitt23. You can find me on my website to www.shelbykittinger.com or my Etsy is just ShelbyKittingerArt, under Etsy, and you'll be able to see two paintings and some prints. And I'll slowly start adding some more things on there.
DC: Yeah, now that this is coming out, you're going to have to. I'm just kidding. I don't think I'm that big.
SK: You know, soooo many people know you. Oh, you know everyone.
DC: Yeah, I do. It's a, it's a blessing and a curse.
SK: You know so many people.
DC: Ah, well, thank you so much for your time. I'm gonna put this up sooner than later because I really want to get it out before April first. Before your residency starts, um SIX MONTH residency. Hunt Art Gallery. 403 Main St Suite 105, Buffalo, NY. Thank you so much. Oh, was there anything that you wanted me to ask that I didn't?
SK: Honestly. No.
DC: Hahaha OK.
SK: I was like I could give you my life story, but that's way too fucking long for this.
DC: I mean, you definitely could give me your life story. We could do this again. We can do a round 2 another time. After your residency, how's that?
SK: You know what? That sounds good.
DC: Perfect. OK, cool. Thank you so much.
SK: Alright, thank you. Bye. Bye.
Shelby Kittinger: Hi, I'm Shelby Kittinger. I am a local artist here in Buffalo and I make multimedia-based paintings that typically hold the themes of sociopolitical events, matched with a lot of emotions that come with it.
DC: So. What is your background and how did you get started into this?
SK: Well, so I've painted my entire life. But I went to school at SUNY Fredonia and graduated in the midst of COVID in 2020, as a sculpture major and art history minor. But what really got me back into painting was I was a little sick of academia for a while and I wanted an easier way of creating, without needing to make large sculptures and having no space for it.
DC: Do you think that you're gonna continue down the painting path and not go back to sculptures at all?
SK: I feel I'm starting to bring more multidimensional elements to my paintings. So I think I'm not gonna leave the realm of painting. I think that has been kind of my pride and joy. But what I enjoy doing is creating paintings that go outside of the canvas, so they don't stay within the dimensions of a square. Or a rectangle. They like to break it and I'd like to add elements that stick out of the painting as well.
DC: I did see your Etsy account, because I was lurking you yesterday and I really do love the Barbie. That is an incredible piece. It's incredible.
SK: Thank you.
DC: That is definitely something that goes outside of the square canvas. Which is very large talking about no space.
SK: Yeah it is. You should see at this current moment my bedroom is my studio, so I have paintings lining up the walls and on the side of them.
DC: I believe it. Who or what is your biggest influence?
SK: Oh, OK. So when it comes to influence of artists that I really enjoy Egon Schiele. Even though he himself had a rather short artist life as well as life in general. It was a little controversial. His raw emotions and painterly strokes have very much influenced the way that I express emotions in my paintings. But. I get a lot of inspiration a lot by history, poetry, writing. Because I'm really a student of art history. So I'm really influenced by everything that has come before us. And I attempt to slowly put little bits in each painting that I create.
DC: That's beautiful. You're so beautiful. Speaking of the socio political aspect and kind of telling this story through history, what role do you believe that art plays in society? Do you think that... actually, you know what, I'm not even going to follow up with another question. I just want you to answer the original. What role do you believe art plays in society?
SK: Art is the best expression of humanity. The we have an inherent need to create and when we are faced with so many troubles. Who do we look toward for information? We look toward artists, we look toward poets. We look toward people who are able to see the world without, like, horse blinders to tell what's happening. And I understand that I use Social like. I look at socio political and... I am a white woman whose bisexual. But in a male presenting relationship, and I understand I haven't lived experiences that others have, but I'm always open to learning more about it and like, teaching myself because I feel if we are ill-informed, we cannot create pieces that tell the whole story without knowing the knowledge of it. So artists are the speakers.
DC: I can't disagree with that. I mean, not that I would disagree with it anyway. This isn't really like a battle. Haha. So I know some stuff that's coming up, but is there anything coming up that you would like to talk about. Or if you wanna first answer this: What is your biggest achievement this far?
SK: Oh UM. Biggest achievement so far in my art career is what is currently coming up.
DC: OK, so let's talk about it.
SK: So in April, I will be part of a group of five other artists at the Hunt Art residency in Buffalo, NY.
DC: And what does that exactly mean for the people who don't live in the art world?
SK: An art residency really is when a gallery or a group kind of takes artists under their wings and provides them with opportunities of further engagement for their own careers, having artists talks, or other well known or local artists who are succeeding in their field, come talk to you. They also provide spaces for you to create artwork for a certain amount of time. And display your artwork at a show at the very end. So for this residency, it is 6 months. You're given a studio space and we meet once a week as well as have to come in when we have all the different openings. To create artwork and work in a really fun collaborative space together.
DC: Now you said at the end you'll have your artwork on display. Is this only anything that has been created in the six months. Or can you bring past works like all the stuff in your bedroom?
SK: I think so. I believe for the show at the very end, it's the artwork we're currently creating. But in our studio, because we get to set up in the middle of April, our own studios, we have to bring in artwork we've created beforehand and put them on display and a price tag so that people can come down during all of the openings and peek their heads into our studios.
DC: I really like that. That's really cool because you're, like, here's all of the stuff I've done.
SK: Yeah.
DC: Well, not all of it, but here's the stuff I've done, and here is going to be the stuff I'm doing now. I know we talked a little bit about your style and your creating off of the canvas. What are your favorite mediums?
SK: Oh, uh, like types of paintings or?
DC: Or yeah, I guess maybe that's not the right word. But what's your favorite paint? What is your favorite canvas to paint on? I know that I've seen you paint on wood? What else... I was lurking... and now I can't remember.
SK: I've kind of picking up a few different things I see typically. And medium is the correct word.
DC: OK phew.
SK: You're all good on that. I was like, oh, I just wanted to make sure. I typically create with acrylic and gouache paint. And for gouache, I really like to paint on paper because it holds it really nicely. Ah. Especially if you get a nice thicker paper like Reeves is great for it. Acrylic paint is great to put on everything. Some people won't agree with it, but I don't have patience to wait three days to then put on my details. So acrylic paint is great for putting players on in a quicker pace. I've painted on cardboard canvas. Wood. Honestly, cardboard has been fun. Because it's cheap, everyone has it, and it's biodegradable, which isn't great for art preservationists.
DC: Yeah, yeah. Well. It's good to practice, you know, if you have a new concept and you're like, you know what? I don't really care about this one.
SK: Like. I'll just work on that. Yeah, I mean a lot of times I have the idea in my head and I swore off horribly rough sketching it. I don't really have a pretty notebook. I've been attempting to create a pretty notebook. It's going poorly, but I'll sketch it roughly if I have it in my head more than anything. And like once I create it, it's done.
DC: I got you. All right. No sketchbooks... interesting. That is some talent. You are just like I have it in my head and now it's a piece of art. That's it. Done.
SK: I mean, I take reference images as best as I can. Google search through everything. Probably the amount of pictures on my phone is about 12,000 and most of them are referenced images.
DC: That is, that is the life that we live. Most of most of mine are memes. I'm just kidding. I might not be kidding.
SK:I would not be surprised at all.
DC: I'll have to go through my screenshots. It's probably stuff that I meant to read at a later date. And then I've never looked at again. If we’re being honest, but anyway. So after your six month residency... which everybody who's reading this should absolutely go check it out. It is in Buffalo, downtown on Main Street. Uh. What was the name again, Hunt?
SK: Yep. Hunt Art Gallery yeah.
DC: Yes. So after that, what do you see in your future? Are you going to try to continue getting residencies at art galleries? Do you want to possibly have your own art gallery?
SK: I think the end all be all goal is to be able to have my artwork in galleries. But eventually one day create a community, right? Where I currently live is in the Southtowns, and in the town that I live, there is no art to be had. I would like to create a Community and possibly one day, buy a house. You know, if everything crashes. To create a little spot so that others can have like a little weekend away residency, like a little shed in the backyard. But I want to have my artwork everywhere. If I can reach the ability to have pieces in New York City, Paris, I will be beyond happy. I don't want to not reach for the stars because if I settle. I think it will be the biggest disappointment in my life and I've gone through a lot.
DC: No, I 100% agree. I've definitely been told in my life that I am too old, or too out of touch with reality. And I'm like, Nah, man. Like if I'm not going to say it, if I'm not going to dream about it...it's never going to happen, but if I say it and think about it. It could potentially happen, so why not?
SK: And if you don't do it, exactly, but if you don't do anything about it. You're never gonna get any step further. You may not succeed the first time. I've been doing this and attempting with me and my husband working it out for the past 3 1/2 years and we've gone through a lot in that time. But this past year, year and the few months, has been the most progression and I think it really started with my red piece. That's also called “We're All Fucking Clowns”
DC :Yes, I love that piece too.
SK: It so skyrocketed me.
DC: Yeah, that is, that is a great piece. I saw you were selling prints. Man, listen to me promoting you. So I'm going to lead in... What do you think about this social media self-promotion culture that we are in.
SK: I think...
DC: Do you hate it? Because I hate it, haha
SK: I hate it. I do hate it, in the aspect that now I have to actively be on my phone a lot more than I ever was. People would call me. I'd miss it. I'd maybe talk to him the day after, but I am always on my phone. Applying, checking things, seeing openings, cause when you go to openings you become more recognizable. You meet people, they notice you. People are very kind in this community in Buffalo, I will say. And we'll give a little shout outs or send opportunities that they feel like your stuff fits, but you are on social media all the time and I hate promoting myself.
DC: I do too.
SK: But no one else is gonna do it for me.
DC: Correct. I mean I obviously I'm not an artist in the sense that you are. But it just feels egotistical. Like, like, I have to make myself a brand.
SK: Absolutely.
DC: And that sucks because I'm not a brand. I'm a person, but people aren't going to like this. Maybe. But you know, that's what actors are told. Make yourself a brand. And I'm like, yeah, well, but anyway, I digress.
SK: No, no, no. Artists in the aspect of traditional media like I am, are also told find your niche.
DC: Oh yeah, yeah.
SK: Find your spot and I'm like it has always killed me because I have squandered a lot of my own creativity and process by attempting to be palatable. And what's easy to be sold. I've never sold a single painting, and it kills me because sometimes... more likely than not, okay once a month I will break out and cry and go. What am I doing this for?
DC: Which is completely understandable, but don't put yourself in the box of finding your niche. I don't. I don't know.
SK: No, I don't like it. And it's not true. I think it is an old way of doing things. And not that there aren't things that you can take beautiful tips from, that have worked for the past, but it doesn't need to happen the same way anymore, yeah. I feel you have to be consistent, and I think that is the biggest thing.
DC: Yeah, and the consistency gets hard after a while. Well, if we're talking about social media, because I just get burnt out on it and then I get angry. You did mention that Buffalo is a very good place where people will share your stuff... What are your favorite things about Buffalo?
SK: I enjoy that when you look at Buffalo, you see the years of its of its grandeur. You also see the years of its poverty. You also see we get the lake and the forest. We get the kindness of people. And also, I think the only people who can live in Buffalo are the people who are able to grind through. And I think that makes us hard workers, because you really have to work to get places here. Oh yeah, such a great art community. People are gracious. I think. It is just the people, the people make it.
DC: It's definitely not the weather. I can tell you that.
SK: No, it's not.
DC: Are there any people that you would like to shout out? Speaking of, you know, how people are gracious. Anyone you want to say thank you to or anything.
SK: I there's a few different people. I think I've made some wonderful friends, and I've met some more recent artists who've really helped me find the people that I need, to go, to like... to move myself forward. Danielle Saeva is a fantastic female artist and she actually currently is working at the Hunt Art Gallery, as well as I believe, Oshei. [She] is a fantastic oil painter. I have been wanting to take some lessons with her. She is transcendental as a person to begin with. But her painting skills are just fabulous, and she is a great look for talent. I'd also like to say Julia Bottoms is a female black artist, who's done tons and tons of work for the Black community in Buffalo. Including the freedom wall and just had an exhibition, the artwork at the Buffalo Society of Artists, for young black artists, and she's a fantastic portrait artist. And it was incredibly nice to finally meet her in person, like a few weeks ago. I was beyond stricken.
DC: Did you do the nervous thing where your face turns red and you don't know what to say and you stutter? Because that's what happens to me.
SK: Of course I did. I didn't know she was going to be there. I didn't think about the fact tha “Yeah, you ran this. Of course, you're gonna be here!” And a fellow artist of mine, who used to be my boss actually, at Locust Street art, introduced me and I was like “Hi. How do you paint? What do you do? What are your tips? Why do you do this? What is the reason?” Like SHUT UP. Hahah
DC: Ah, that's that is amazing. I love that for you. So I think that we are going to have to wrap this up. Ironically, I need to ask you if you would like to share your social media accounts where people can find you. Facebook. Instagram. I don't know... Etsy.
SK: I actually... I have to update my website. But my Instagram is @shekitt23. You can find me on my website to www.shelbykittinger.com or my Etsy is just ShelbyKittingerArt, under Etsy, and you'll be able to see two paintings and some prints. And I'll slowly start adding some more things on there.
DC: Yeah, now that this is coming out, you're going to have to. I'm just kidding. I don't think I'm that big.
SK: You know, soooo many people know you. Oh, you know everyone.
DC: Yeah, I do. It's a, it's a blessing and a curse.
SK: You know so many people.
DC: Ah, well, thank you so much for your time. I'm gonna put this up sooner than later because I really want to get it out before April first. Before your residency starts, um SIX MONTH residency. Hunt Art Gallery. 403 Main St Suite 105, Buffalo, NY. Thank you so much. Oh, was there anything that you wanted me to ask that I didn't?
SK: Honestly. No.
DC: Hahaha OK.
SK: I was like I could give you my life story, but that's way too fucking long for this.
DC: I mean, you definitely could give me your life story. We could do this again. We can do a round 2 another time. After your residency, how's that?
SK: You know what? That sounds good.
DC: Perfect. OK, cool. Thank you so much.
SK: Alright, thank you. Bye. Bye.